Always co-opt or use the symbol for all itâs worth. hater definition: 1. a person who says or writes unpleasant things about someone or criticizes their achievements…. Today. Would you prefer to use that instead? In this Administration it's funny how the "time and the place for those things" is never "now.". Voicing Hate When We Really Hurt. “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.” – Madeleine L’Engle. There was I thinking they kept winning because they rig elections, lie through their teeth, do their best to keep the electorate in fear and ignorance, get all the money because they're in cahoots with Corporate America at the expense of the averae citizen, are institutionally corrupt and think nothing - absolutely nothing - of smearing all those who disagree with them through a carefully created network of lying, whining, patronising bastiches like O'Reilly, etc who carefully spin republican talking points whilst claiming to be independent journalists who tell it like it is, are "fair and balanced" and so forth. Outstanding eulogy by Red. Didn't the Democrats learn their lesson from the Wellstone funeral? If you're one of those hurt by it, maybe you ought to re-examine what it is YOU stand for. But, of course, the noble tradition of radicalism in this country now invites as much hate as the once-noble tradition of liberalism. – Coretta Scott King. “ Another word for hate. To honor an activist? 98. Although hating is a very easy thing to do and some people do let their hurt cause them to hate, there are some, very many in fact, who say that they hate when they really hurt. Should we even wonder why so many in the GOP were made uncomfortable by the funeral? 2. Wow. Either way, I’m on your mind.” Anonymous. And stuff like this: Lowery Responds To Right-Wingâs âPoliticizationâ Criticisms. The Gala approaches! You get a time-out for lack of reading comprehension. amberglow, what do you think of Bill setting Hillary up for an ovation? I cringe at the thought that I might actually hate someone and subscribe to Madeleine LâEngleâs thoughts that âHate hurts the hater more’n the hated.â. They either see you as a threat. 8. It can be as addictive as alcohol or drugs. Before I started this website I had a conversation with a friend of mine who is a very successful blogger and who has more haters than I have hair on my head. 2. The fuss seems to be all from people who can't relate to her in the first place. 8. 1. Ya'll fuckin' serious, or can ya'll just drop the affected southern vernacular and step out of character now? Hatred is bitter-sweet as it inflates the ego and makes you feel very superior and self-righteous against the thing or one that is hated, only breeding further pain. Don't miss out on our next weekly batch. Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” Coretta Scott King It's like somebody cranked up both the republican and the democrat cliche generators and turned them up to 11. and the continuing disdain shown afflicted African-Americans even today, as in the Gulf. To see what your friends thought of this quote, please sign up! But, you know, keep working the refs or whatever. The new advanced search interface organizes the results more sensibly. Let's all say it together. I have fantasies about watching that man have a heart attack. I readily admit there are those who hurt me I feel completely indifferent about. Using what was said at a funeral to score political points is even worse than saying something at an activist's funeral, in case you didn't realize, politically speaking. Dr King, on his wishes for his own eulogy, from his sermon: I'm amazed so many of y'all turned out to express approval for what occurred at that funeral. If you support non-violence and peace like MLK then you shouldn't feel the need to heap abuse on other people of differing viewpoints, you should talk calmly and respectfully. They say to each of us, black and white alike, that we must substitute courage for caution. I don't believe that JekPorkins' primary concern is MLK's legacy. 6. As for class, Carter and Lowery graduated decades ago, so of course they don't have any class. They say to us that we must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced the murderers. Well, yes orthogonality, I think your cardboard cutout comments were right on, and they also speak to a much larger issue that I think is driving a lot of right wing "rhetoric". Lowery's remarks was his claim that "we know now" that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Hate masks personal insecurities. Read more quotes from Madeleine L'Engle. Where does the phrase come from? As verbs the difference between hurt and hate is that hurt is to be painful while hate is to dislike intensely or greatly. And please, stop with the victimhood over all the insults. Martin Luther King, Jr. himself used the occasion of the Sixteenth Street Babtist Church funeral for 3 of the 4 girls killed to speak about the Dixiecrats and others who would deny equality. So, you're saying that Carter's statement, "we only have to recall the colour of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi who are most devastated by Katrina to know that there are not yet equal opportunities for all Americans," was inappropriate? To feel strong dislike for or hostility toward: rivals who hate each other. It was about her strength of character and moral bearing. Porkins, you're living in a dream world if you think MLK was somehow nonpartisan. On review, gesamtkunstwerk said pretty much the same thing. Huh? MLK and Coretta were all about telling the truth to power. Join 6,466 readers in helping fund MetaFilter. I've been wondering about that, Malor. Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” – Israelmore Ayivor Chasfile, you certainly have a lot to say for a post that you deem "terrible". « Older Valentines for Perfect Strangers | That's Seargant Pug to You, Dammit Newer », This thread has been archived and is closed to new comments. This thread is brought to you by Standard Partisan Rhetoric 'R Us. "Truth to power"? But we do have this moment. 1. They have something to say to a federal government that has compromised with the undemocratic practices of southern Dixiecrats (Yeah) and the blatant hypocrisy of right-wing northern Republicans. I think they’re great minded, but choose to sell … On preview-- I was about to post the same picture kirkaracha did. I would argue that King was a radical, albeit on the liberal side of the spectrum. Just for the record, anyone speaking at my funeral is free -- nay. Learn more details and find out ways to participate. Or, to quote Frederick Douglas: "Agitate, agitate, agitate.". Completely true or not, that thought helps me forgive people who have injured me emotionally. Hate follows success like a shadow – always looking to cast some shade. Otherwise, with ordinary people there’s an adage that goes, someone most often hates you for one of three reasons. ... Reading The Pictures: Laura's "Sit Down Strike" For Coretta King. Otherwise, with ordinary people thereâs an adage that goes, someone most often hates you for one of three reasons. This info is very valuable. Sorry if you don't like that. I just never thought of strong aversion as being hate. 3. As always, if you ever want to know what the Republicans are guilty of just listen at what they are accusing others of doing. I'm not even sure you know what partisanship is, except that it has yucky connotations. Should anyone be surprised that the rare time Bush appears in front of an audience that is not carefully screened there is some pent up hostility? Truth to power. Career law enforcement professionals on the payroll of the U S governement subjected the King family--including Ms. Coretta--to wiretapping and electronic surveillance throughout Dr. King's career. More ideas: — Too many results? Hate is too great a burden to bear. They have something to say to every politician [Audience:] (Yeah) who has fed his constituents with the stale bread of hatred and the spoiled meat of racism. A typical weblog is one person posting their thoughts on the unique things they find on the web. “Friends ask you questions; enemies question you.” Criss Jami. The best and complete answer wins 10 points. Effigy2000: good job, being persuaded to change your mind. What word would you use to encompass those political beliefs? My only problem with Rev. It is a sign of a guilty conscience for Bushites to rail at Jimmy Carter for mentioning this at the recent memorial; the reaction is that of Claudius to Hamlet's play. Whether used as a means to cover up feelings of fear or pain, hatred can quickly become all-consuming. Oh for fuck's sake you guys. And perhaps you should also like to think of Caesar without ever having to consider the existence of, "I'm glad republicans don't call MLK a liberal.". This time. Don't look at hate as a reflection of yourself and your work, but don't use it as a crutch either. Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters are insecure people. Such people are now blanks where a relationship of some sort has been erased due to the pain they caused me. Hate is too great a burden to bear. Next to meeting somebody who admires someone we admire, we all like to meet somebody who hates someone we hate. One possible reading might be that someone who is liberal would allow someone else to have an alternate viewpoint or ideology and respect that. I am grateful to know the difference! 9. (Speak) They have something to say to every Negro (Yeah) who has passively accepted the evil system of segregation and who has stood on the sidelines in a mighty struggle for justice. 99. Lowery. Hate has a way of bringing out the worst in people. It was the perfect time and place--and way--to celebrate an activist's life. Check out that video if you haven't seen it. However there are times some people might prefer one form over another, and there are fixed expressions which use one form in preference to another. The Bush administration and the Republican party for the last 6 years have almost done nothing but politicize funerals and death. I know MetaFilter is littered with die-hard liberals, but it's really surprising sometimes to see just how far off the reservation y'all have wandered. To feel dislike or distaste for: hates washing dishes; hates to get up early. There is no one I can think of who I lack the intention of forgiveness for in my heart. What you shouldn't do is throw cheap insults and deliberately misread the oppositions words so that you can act like you are channeling the holy spirit of liberty and goodliness. Fine. Friends Who Liked This Quote. I wish them no harm or difficulty, but frankly donât care to know anything about them today. February 8, 2006 3:53 PM Subscribe This website exists to break down the barriers between people, to extend a weblog beyond just one person, and to foster discussion among its members. No. I would say that it wasn't the place because it's a funeral and it's something that shouldn't really be politicised, unless it was something the deceased expressed beforehand that doing so would be ok by him/her. 10. - Coretta Scott King. I hope my funeral warants being politicized. ing, hates v.tr. Do you deliberately look to start fights or what? I've probably read 80-90% of comments you've ever made on this site, longbaugh. Give examples too. 7. 1. Is that really the worst thing you can say about JFK? And yes, there are people I really donât care for. I hadn't read the quote above when I posted mine. Haters overcompensate this aspect — the deeper they loved, the stronger they hate. I wonder how much Dexter can profit by licensing that quote (before it goes out of copyright anyway). 3. Milquetoast sermons? Everyone else knows and accepts that MLK was a lib. Republicans are evil. If it was the latter, he's 5 years too late. However with some I am uncertain if complete forgiveness is possible. cribcage: Oh. Itâs a healthy sort of turning a blind eye and putting those old pains up high on a shelf and forgetting about those caused them. This and all discussions like it minimize their importance. The posters at MeFi are Democratic Party operatives, therefore it is fair to compare their influence with that of Karl Rove and the GOP. No Hate Lyrics: Tell me why they all hatin on me / Cause it's God Over Money and my whole team / I'm banged out like Yeshua is my OG / And I don't really know why they be low key / Logo on my ing , hates v. tr. This was an unparallelled opportunity for Bush to be forced into a situation where he didn't have a pre-selected. pyramid termite is correct. are those who care the most about what other people think. Itâs a form of healthy self-care to at least be able to recognize whoâs good for me and who isnât. 20 synonyms of hate from the Merriam-Webster Thesaurus, plus 62 related words, definitions, and antonyms. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated. Why was it not the time or the place? It's interesting that there are several references to Shakespeare in the thread already. If hate can be taught, so can love. in my link above, there's a quote by Ms. King, justgary---and there have been many quotes and links posted already about her life. Unless you are in favor of rule by king or other dictator you are a Liberal. Jimmy Carter & Reverend Lowery: NO CLASS. Learn more. I'm beginning to suspect that if JekPorkins were any more deliberately obtuse s/he'd be ripped straight from the pages of Euclid's. "We're angry at [the fact that Bush attended the funeral]." “Hate hurts the hater more'n the hated.” ― Madeline L'Engle tags: hate. "Hate is too great a burden to bear. This thread is about the GOP reaction to her funeral (gee, i wonder if they're using the funeral for political purposes as well just maybe???) The unhappiest people in this world, It is a really good expression of how to handle the hate and hopefully bring relief to the hurt that seems to be increasing daily. In his hit, Gettin' Jiggy wit It, he rapped that he had "no love for the haters," because they were, implicitly, motivated by envy.In 2001, the R&B group 3LW, in their song Playas Gon' Play, provided more context for understanding haters by telling us "playas gon' play [and] haters gon' hate." This is because you carry an image of who they wish they had become. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated." Non-conservative? If I were King's family, I would have asked him, Republicans don't know how to have a funeral. Yes, cribcage. At this point I really donât think I hate anyone and readily admit I have at times confused hurt with hate. The "not right time or place" is just a distractor that was evidently used to derail attention from what was said and by who during the cerimony. A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. Oh yea, you're the problem. Go Quakers! But bravo, Jek, you've proven yourself an excellent troll. It’s easier said than done though, the whole “accepting” your haters thing. I am no fan of the Bush movement, and I can see how one would argue it was the place, but it's not something I would probably have done. If you want to label the founding fathers as liberal according to how it is defined today remember that LBJ (the president when MLK was being bugged) was a democrat. So if I dislike someone a lot, I in fact hate them. Besides tha,t most of the preceding comments are a load of horseshit. I'd like to see you back up this assertion. Haters are people who (still) care, but they do so far too much. Not 100% forgiveness, but close. Synonym Discussion of hate. Hate definition, to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry. more. It's not an ad hom when your comments are analyzed and it's concluded that you're not altogether very bright. George W. 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